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[I hated Kai Winn with a fury. Her smug condescending demeanor, matched with the cold-blooded willingness to sacrifice anything and anyone for her own advantage made me wish for an airlock malfunction a little harder every single time she showed up. Now I realize that Louise Fletcher is just a phenomenal actress.]

I figure this post is a good place to have this discussion. It bothers me a lot when people refer to Kai Winn as the “hateable” villain in DS9, or the “Dolores Umbridge” or whatever.
I really sympathized with her in so many ways. The Prophets’ religion is the only thing that got her through the terrifying Occupation (in which she suffered a lot more than many of the other survivors). And the very INSTANT this occupation ends, an interloper comes to Bajor and encounters the very Prophets she worships, making him (by the very law she follows) the effective messiah of their religion.
Think about this. The very first thing that happens after the Occupation is that a new group takes control of the Occupation’s command center, and its new commander is suddenly an object of worship.
On top of that, Winn’s debut episode sees her hit the ground running as a villain, yes, but what set her off in the first place? It was hearing her gods being referred to as “aliens” in a classroom, where members of her religion were students. I imagine this is analogous to a bishop hearing a teacher tell a room full of Catholic students that the Bible is a fairy tale — and that’s WITHOUT factoring in that Winn’s race was being subjected to genocide less than a year prior
I can’t blame her for being pissed.
(Not gonna excuse her actions, but they’re all understandable if you follow from there.)

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[I hated Kai Winn with a fury. Her smug condescending demeanor, matched with the cold-blooded willingness to sacrifice anything and anyone for her own advantage made me wish for an airlock malfunction a little harder every single time she showed up. Now I realize that Louise Fletcher is just a phenomenal actress.]

I figure this post is a good place to have this discussion. It bothers me a lot when people refer to Kai Winn as the “hateable” villain in DS9, or the “Dolores Umbridge” or whatever.

I really sympathized with her in so many ways. The Prophets’ religion is the only thing that got her through the terrifying Occupation (in which she suffered a lot more than many of the other survivors). And the very INSTANT this occupation ends, an interloper comes to Bajor and encounters the very Prophets she worships, making him (by the very law she follows) the effective messiah of their religion.

Think about this. The very first thing that happens after the Occupation is that a new group takes control of the Occupation’s command center, and its new commander is suddenly an object of worship.

On top of that, Winn’s debut episode sees her hit the ground running as a villain, yes, but what set her off in the first place? It was hearing her gods being referred to as “aliens” in a classroom, where members of her religion were students. I imagine this is analogous to a bishop hearing a teacher tell a room full of Catholic students that the Bible is a fairy tale — and that’s WITHOUT factoring in that Winn’s race was being subjected to genocide less than a year prior

I can’t blame her for being pissed.

(Not gonna excuse her actions, but they’re all understandable if you follow from there.)

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spockemon:

-What’s this?
-A nondisclosure agreement. What we’re about to discuss has been classified top secret by the United States Government.

I don’t know if anything on Stargate SG-1 ever made me laugh harder than the alacrity with which Sam signed that nondisclosure agreement, and how irked Daniel looked at her for not holding out a little longer.

THE WAY?!?!? SAM CLICKS THAT PEN?!?!?

I was watching this with my friend lovejustlied who’d never seen Stargate before, and she was all like, “I am so here for what she does with her teeth. Like…what even?”